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by: DrMidnight
My Top 10 Athletes Not in a Hall Of Fame
Jan 11, 2006 | 6:33PM | report this

Tuesday, the baseball Hall Of Fame finally voted in closer extraordinaire Bruce Sutter. In the opinion of this fan, it was way overdue.

300 saves. Career ERA of 2.83, and that included three seasons at the end of his career when an injured Sutter had an ERA of well over 4. Most of all, he had the Unhittable Pitch.

Sutter pioneered the split-fingered fastball that was so good, you wondered if it would be outlawed. Sutter is the first pure closer to be voted into the Hall - finally. Now the The Pro Football Hall Of Fame has annouced its finalists. I had to start looking at all of the players on the outside looking in. So across football, basketball, and baseball, here are my Top 10 Players who should be in the Hall Of Fame:

1. Jim Rice – Jim Ed was simply the most dominating hitter in the AL from 1975-1985. His 1977 season of .315 average, league leading 46 bombs and 139 RBI (did we mention 213 hits and a league-leading 15 triples?) is one for the ages, even by today's heightened standards. 406 total bases one season, perennial Top 5 MVP selection. Not a media-friendly guy; and that certainly hurt his chances for a while, although many of his former detractors have rallied to his cause. Rice also was hurt in the voting because he did not age as gracefully as some of his peers. He had his last good season at 33, and by the time he was 36 he was done, resulting in him finishing just shy of 400 homers, and having his career batting average drop under .300. He clearly belongs in the Hall, although I suspect he might be hurt by some stars such as Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripken, and Mark McGwire becoming eligible soon.

      

2. Rich “Goose” Gossage – As far as I’m concerned, The Goose was the most intimidating closer who ever lived. Goose pitched back in a time where real men threw two, three, even four innings for a save. Three times in his career he pitched over 130 innings in relief. Three times had an ERA of under 2.00 In 1981, had an ERA of 0.77 He clearly hung around way past his prime (his last ‘big’ season as a closer was 1986, but he pitched until 1994) but why should that hurt his Hall of Fame stock? Gossage was still effective late in his career in any case. If we really believe that a strong bullpen is an essential component to a championship club, then honoring the best closer over a ten year period (1975-85) is a no-brainer.

3. Albert Belle – Man I love stirring the pot… heh heh heh  But bear with me:

Albert played 10 full seasons, 1991-2000. He averaged nearly 38 homers and 120 RBI during that period with a 297 average. Finished in the Top 10 of the MVP 4 times, five Silver Sluggers. His OPS (on-base plus slugging pct.) was in the top seven 5 times in six years. Six times did he finish in the top five in homers. You get the idea. Even if you consider this an era of inflated numbers, he was still among the very best hitters of his era.

Now for the reality check – Albert was and is considered far too miserable a human being to get in the Hall any time soon. It will probably take the Veteran's Committee (and a Presidental pardon) to get Belle in.

4. Dominique Wilkins – Forget the nine All-Star selections. Forget the five appearances on the All-NBA First or Second Team (in an era where his peers were Larry Bird, Bernard King, Marques Johnson, Alex English, and James Worthy).

The man retired number seven on the all-time NBA scoring list. The seventh best home run hitter all-time at the time of Nique’s retirement was Reggie Jackson. Currently it’s Mark McGwire, sandwiched between Frank Robinson and Harmon Killebrew. Can you imagine any of those players not making the Hall? Yes, even McGwire. The NFL's 7th all-time leader in touchdowns? Walter Payton. Every inactive player within screaming distance of Payton is in the Hall, except for the recently retired Tim Brown. So what excuse do we have for not having Jacques Dominique Wilkins in the Hall?  Buzzard's Luck may be part of the problem: Nique's best ball came when the Celtics and Sixers were the road blocks (Exhibit A: 1988 Conference Semis: Nique goes 19-23 from the floor for 47 points in Game 7 - at the Boston Garden. But Bird goes for 20 in the fourth, and Boston escapes with a two point win.). Once Boston faded, the Pistons and Bulls were there. Why penalize the man for that?

The Human Highlight Film not only carried his team for over a decade, he did something that hasn’t been done since – he made Atlanta care about hoops.

6. Dennis Johnson – Dennis Johnson couldn’t shoot straight, wasn’t a pure point guard or shooting guard. All he did was ball like a champion. Nine times a member of the All-Defensive first or second team. Not that you needed that to know how good he was on D. Despite giving up five inches to Magic Johnson, DJ was the only guard strong enough and smart enough to make Magic work to bring the ball up the court on a regular basis. No one else could make Magic bring the ball up with his back to the defender. Let us not forget two All-NBA selections, five All-Star games, and a Finals MVP.

And for all of his shakiness with the J, DJ was deadly with the game on the line. And Larry Bird called Johnson, “The best teammate I ever played with.”

Induct him already please! (And I'm a Lakers fan!)

6. Chet "The Jet” WalkerWilt Chamberlain called him the greatest one on one player he ever played with. He scored over 18,000 points in an NBA career that still had mileage on it when he quit at 33 (having averaged 19 points a game for the Bulls that season). Was he a winner? The Bulls made the playoffs every year he was there, and crashed in the seasons before and after he left. He attempted to sue the Bulls for anti-trust violations (as they wouldn’t release or trade him, nor would they renegotiate his contract), and lost. You wonder if that has had an impact on his Hall chances. Seven All-Star selections, career averages of 18 points and 7 boards a game at the small forward spot certainly doesn’t hurt. And did I mention that he was the starting “3” on the greatest squad in NBA history, the 1968 Sixers?

 

7. Harry Carson – Harry’s biggest problem is that he played alongside possibly the best linebacker (and clearly the best outside linebacker) who ever lived in Lawrence Taylor, yet it was Harry who was the heart and soul of those Giants’ defenses of the late 70’s and through the 1980’s. Tough, smart, and nasty, but always under control, and classy off the field, Harry has been shafted repeatedly by the Hall. Last year, he had a justified “Shawshank Moment” (I call it that because it reminded me of Morgan Freeman’s heartfelt blast at the parole board after 40 years) - Carson publically told the Hall, in effect, "Don’t even bother me anymore".

Like Morgan, expect Harry to finally get his ticket punched to the Hall.

8. Art Monk – At the time of his retirement, he had a record 940 receptions. Yes, I know there were a lot of 10 yard hitch routes. Big deal. He moved the chains by using his size over the middle and on the “dirty work” patterns, which enabled Gary Clark, Charlie Brown, Ricky Sanders, et al to get open deep. Always a reliable target for Joe Theisman, Doug Williams, or Mark Rypien. Monk was no prima donna, as he also was one of the best blocking wideouts of his time, and if he had an ego, it was checked at the door.

Just the type of player that the media loves, but then doesn't want to reward. What are we waiting for?

9. Bert Blyleven – Besides being the owner of one of Chris Berman’s best nicknames, Bert won 287 games, many of those with some really bad teams, which somewhat explains his so-so winning percentage of .534 (Nolan Ryan’s was .524 by comparison).

While only winning 20 games once, his career ERA was a very good 3.30 (the league average during his career was 3.91). Eight times, he struck out 200 or more batters, many with a curve considered one of the very best in the game. Ten times he finished in the Top 10 in ERA, and was a regular among the league leaders in K’s and SO/BB ratio. Baseball-reference.com lists the most similar pitchers as Hall Of Famers Don Sutton, Steve Carlton, and ####lord Perry.

I admit, it took some time to think of him as being in the class, but the numbers make a good case for him.

10. John Madden – Boom! I throw a coach in. But Big John’s numbers made you say WHAP! Long before he became an announcer, years before he became The Man behind Madden 2006 (or 1994 if you still held on to your Sega Genesis like I have), all Madden did was win games. 112 of them in 10 seasons.

In fact his 112-39-7 record is the best in Raider history. His winning percentage of .739 in all games trails only Vince Lombardi’s .750 among coaches with 100+ wins. His regular season percentage is .750, and that is the best ever for any coach. Madden also has an NFL title, winning Super Bowl IX in 1976. What may be lost in this is that Madden’s teams played in five consecutive AFC Title games from 1973-77. Overall, the Madden years had the Raiders in seven conference/league title games. That’s a lot of knocking on the door when you consider that they played in the same era as the Steeler and Dolphin juggernauts.

The NFL Senior's committee has him as nominee. It should have never come to that.

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James_M_Morisete
Jan 11, 2006
6:42 PM
Midnight: One of the best top ten lists of all the contestents. Well researched, well written, you get a 4.

With that said I have a question:

Roger Maris is not on your list. Why?

Last edited by James_M_Morisete on January 11th at 7:17 PM.

The_Sports_Intellectual
Jan 11, 2006
6:45 PM
A well-researched piece that's an easy read. Although I'm not sold on the last two, I'm drawing a blank right now as to who I'd nominate instead. Anyway, good job. I can tell you did your homework for this one.

ILoveScotch
Jan 11, 2006
7:02 PM
nice job, Midnight. Nique especially deserves props. One thing - Rice's season, the one you describe? That was 1978, not 77.

Kevo2106
Jan 11, 2006
7:11 PM
no pete rose or shoeless joe jackson?

herecometheirish
Jan 11, 2006
7:22 PM
anyone else notice that this was posted after the deadline?

ShooterB
Jan 11, 2006
7:37 PM
I agree most strongly with the Dominique Wilkins pick. He battled Larry Bird shot for shot in some of the greatest NBA games of all time. He was much more than a human highlight reel. He is one of the greats. And how about the reserve role he took later in his career? He was still great then.

mustangj17
Jan 11, 2006
7:50 PM
hey yo don't feel bad. Morrisette liked my post too and gave me a four. I hate to see what a five is.

It's okay though James I still like you.

God Bless America!

DrMidnight
Jan 11, 2006
7:52 PM
I wanted to reach the judges directly. I have had had problems adding pictures and editing my posts.Espeically using dialup. Hence the tardiness.I had no intention of posting late, and hope you all forgive me.

DrMidnight
Jan 11, 2006
7:55 PM
Mustang, I probably needed some multi-media for a five. :-)

Metswon
Jan 11, 2006
8:03 PM
Wilkins, yes, DJ yes,
When will Rodman be eligible? he most certainly deserves it. How about Jamal Wilkes and Bob Dandridge? You a Laker fan, how about Worthy?
Chet Walker and Bob Love made a nice forward combo for the Bulls

http://blogs.foxsports.com/Mets
won/2006/01/11/No_l
osses_this_year_How_long_can_it
_last_NYKs

now 6 in a row and counting

Last edited by Metswon on January 11th at 9:13 PM.

mrbaseball_cpr
Jan 11, 2006
9:15 PM
Props for the Monk nod. Big props for mentioning Bert "Be Home" Blyleven! Well overdue.
Also, can't believe that there is even a question as to whether the Human Highlight Film deserves the vote!

DrMidnight
Jan 11, 2006
9:35 PM
Hey James.

Maris was an interesting call for me, and don't hate me on this but I couldn't justify the numbers. Roger had three really good seasons, 1960-62, with two MVPs. He had a solid 1958, and was a valuable 4th OFer for the Cards.

Yet he only played in 140 games ONCE in his last six years, and hung it up at 33. Injuries just wore him down. If he had had maybe two more seasons comparable to 1960 (forget 1961), I could feel like I could make a case for him.

I have much sympathy for the man given the abuse he unfairly took for the NY media (did they ever apologize to him or his family?) for having the 'nerve' to hit 61 homers. Having said that, it is hard for me to justify his *career* numbers being Hall-worthy.

Thanks for reading.

DrMidnight
Jan 11, 2006
9:37 PM
Metswon - I agree Rodman should be a easy selection to the Hall - see my second blog post "57 Things I Believe In". At this point, I think he isn't eligible for a year or so.

gwaugs
Jan 12, 2006
8:53 AM
Ron Santo! The #1 most glaring omission from the Baseball Hall of Fame is 3B Ron Santo. Difficult defensive position, decent average, decent OBP, excellent power *and* five (consecutive) Gold Gloves. It's not even like the guy was totally underappreciated in his time-- 9 All-Star appearances, 4 top-10 MVP votes, etc. It's just that he got hurt and retired well short of that arbitrary (contemporary) 400-HR milestone, and was quickly discounted and forgotten.

Good job DrMidnight...

imfeklar
Jan 12, 2006
10:30 AM
Worthy doesn't deserve it as a commentator. He was inducted as a player in 2003.

Good list. I'd like to see Joe Dumars (decent offense, ask Jordan about his defense). And Jack Morris is arguably the best AL pitcher of the 80's (Clemens only pitched the last few years).

And thanks for not including Rose and Jackson. That's been beaten to death - they aren't eligible.

NorthSideFan
Jan 12, 2006
10:43 AM
Wow Midnight, great post. I can only imagine the research that went into this. very impressive.

I'm glad I read the comments... gwaugs is dead on. Santo has to be one of the most glaring omissions in all of sports.

In addition, I appreciate your stance on Maris. With a guy like him, it would be hard to not simply include for his 61 dingers and the record he held fo that long.

billl
Jan 12, 2006
12:06 PM
You get raving marks from me on two counts, including Dominique and not including Rose.

Well done DrM!

Last edited by billl on January 12th at 12:08 PM.

Ankur
Jan 12, 2006
6:00 PM
Wilkins, Yes. Madden, No.

Metswon
Jan 12, 2006
7:21 PM
http://blogs.foxsports.com/Metswon/
2006/01/12/I_admit_it_I_AM_RON_ARTE
ST

and one day I will be in the hall of fame

diehardldysteelerfn
Jan 14, 2006
9:08 AM
Dr.i must agree with the comment of inducting DJ into the hall of fame. Defensively,he was one of the best !! He is longoverdue..Sportsmanship,stats things of that nature don't count when it comes to the hall of fame ? I guess not. Your articles are spectacular ! Thank you for making people think,and ask why !!!

urbanknight
Jan 20, 2006
11:31 AM
About the comment: Magic Johnson is not from Lansing anymore-- he's from Flint. I happen to be from Flint, and will gladly claim Magic on behalf of Flint--since he is apparently no longer good enough for Lansing. Let put Magic in total perspective here. He is a magnificent human being...extremely socially conscious and extremely likeable. Aside from the one major travesty of his life (indiscretions which lead to HIV), he has been more of a role model and positive example than even the best within the NBA (or any other sport)--yes even Michael Jordan. Magic invests his wealth in urban centers where it will uplift the quality of life for the residents of those centers. And he apparently makes money with these investments, because he continues to make these type investments across the country. Movie theaters, TGIF restaurants, Starbucks coffee shops, etc..placed in neighborhoods that would otherwise not see these type of investments. That translates to jobs, money, health benefits, families, sense of self worth..need I enumerate..? How many other athletes have been able to parlay their wealth into something that not only increases their own net worth, but also carries a substantial societal benefit? Give us 10 more Magics. Who cares if he's not glib?. As far as I'm concerned, he is forgiven for the talk show, and any other misfounded attempts to find his post NBA place in life. So many others fail miserably, or end up with quite ordinary existences after the dusk of their sports careers.

Last edited by urbanknight on January 20th at 11:40 AM.

DrMidnight
Jan 20, 2006
11:53 AM
I love the way you broke it down Urbanknight!

I should point out, you put the post in the wrong location though.

Like I said, Magic has done a ton of good in the black community. It says a lot about the man that we don't really think "HIV" as the first thought about him anymore. We think the player, the TNT commentator, the businessman.

And thankfully, we don't think of the talk show host. :-)

I'm living in LA, and I'll claim him too - but Magic is not above some fun at his expense.

And I thank you for your frank and articulate feedback.

Last edited by DrMidnight on January 20th at 11:54 AM.

dbarabin
Jan 20, 2006
6:52 PM
Funny and I do not care much for sports.

imfeklar
Apr 3, 2006
10:18 AM
Told you Dumars should get in :)

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