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When the USA took a nose-dive against Morocco in May, Arena opined that perhaps the players were “over-trained.”
This was an astonishing statement, and one that we were surprised more fans and journalists did not pick up on. Was Arena saying that he had overworked this team? That his guys were tired out? Or that he had the team wound so tight with over-preparation that any zest had been sucked out of them?
Let’s set aside the idea that these guys were “played out” in the sense we have been using to describe the guys from England, France and Holland who have seen so many games for their clubs. Why? Because that would be ludicrous — half the team was in midseason form because of MLS’ schedule; the other half of the USA’s squad were on international teams that didn’t have much significant European club competition in 2006 to worry about. (Beasley might have of course, had he actually played regularly.)
Let’s also set aside some of the calls we’ve heard from fans who, in a stroke of revisionism, would have re-made the roster. Look: All of you who wanted to see Twellman have to keep in mind that Ching and Wolff didn’t even play. We’ve said all along that we wish the USA might have spent a little more time looking at the DeMerits and Simeks of the world, but there weren’t any great strikers (to say nothing of midfielders) left unearthed. The only guys who might have been added were defenders and once you saw Pope on and Jones left off, you knew the score.
But on the concept that the squad Arena did select was subsequently run into the ground? We think that has traction.
First, this team played a series of meaningless friendlies instead of games against quality competition. Part of this is due to the USA’s lack of cachet — we must admit that teams are often unwilling to play the USA in a reciprocity agreement due to the simple fact that the Americans don’t sell tickets overseas. You get around that, however, by opening up the pocketbook — USSF claims to have some $40m in the bank; wouldn’t May and June have been a good time to spend that instead of frittering away games on Venezuela and Latvia? Consider also that when the USA last played quality competition before the 2002 World Cup — and got ripped, by Holland, at Foxboro — the USA came out of that experience with a little more humility and subsequently played well in their opener. Looking back at the 2006 schedule, which games stood out? The USA played seven weak teams that didn’t qualify for the Cup (Canada, Norway, Guatemala, Jamaica, Morocco, Venezuela and Latvia) two awful sides that did (Poland and Japan) and in the one serious road test, got nailed, 4-1 by the Germans.
The squad also spent a great deal of time sequestered in what from the outside appeared to be an increasingly desperate — and dare we say, paranoid? — attempt by the team’s staff to get the squad back on track. What did Cary, N.C. add to this team’s efforts to succeed? In hindsight, not much — unless you believe that the team’s performance against the Czechs could have been worse.
Recall that in 2002, Arena had the advantage and the ability to run his team almost like a club, sequestering them for a great deal of time and prepping them for each individual first round game. He had rising home-based stars and a CONCACAF Gold Cup tourney to work with and he used both to great advantage. At the time, Arena received well-deserved credit for managing the idea perfectly; we were in the Rose Bowl when that team started to gel and saw how effective his touch could be.
This time, he couldn’t do that. The Gold Cup was played last summer, so he had no FIFA mandated time to play in as the Africans did with their 2006 tourney. (And, in some ways perhaps that’s a blessing given how badly Africa has fared.) So, he was left with a bunch of guys who weren’t going to make the squad… to do what, exactly? Build team cohesion? Not to take a shot at Michael Bradley, but when you give this kid a cap over some of the other guys that showed up through 2004-5 and actually helped get the team qualified — well, that cohesion thing goes right out the window.
Then, during the Cup, the USA closed practices to the media seemingly out of fear that the USA’s grand tactics or player lineups would be leaked out. This is odd for two reasons: The first is that there are only about 25 folks (and we’re being generous) who actually care enough to have written about the team every day in the first place. Alienating them is bad for business. The second is that the USA has no secrets to keep. OK, Gianlugi Buffon didn’t know who was on the roster, but you know Marcelo Lippi and his coaching staff did. So did every other coach the USA faced.
It’s well-known what players the team has, what their capabilities are, and the style of game the side plays. The only “surprise,” if one can call it that, the USA had up its sleeve was Dempsey, and that was only because most players weren’t familiar with the guy. Even Dempsey had played against England in Chicago last summer – and the idea that he, or anyone, can come to the World Cup in this day and age is fanciful. (Ironically, one of the charming aspects of the old World Cups, circa 1958-1978, was that players actually could be discovered at them. Sadly, now all that can happen to a player is have his reputation upheld… or have it trashed.)
The bottom line, as we see it, is that USA spent an awful lot of energy doing nothing. They ran around in the heat, played laughable opponents and never seemed to be meshed together as a team. Despite what the always classy McBride says, this team pretty clearly was 1998 redux; it had far too many guys who knew they would play for well over two years and far too little meaningful competition for playing time. The worst thing about this is that the guys the team probably should have been built around — John O’Brien and Claudio Reyna — were always unavailable.
As a result, they came out with no true semblance of an approach. They weren’t flat — they were bereft of ideas. This is why we feel the folks bashing them for a supposed lack of effort are off base — we think this team tried as hard as it could, but effort can’t make up for a lack of skill or flair. The truth is, trying to compensate for that with fitness may well have worn these guys out before they hit the ground. Despite what is admirable fitness (even the USA’s detractors admit there’s something to the training) and the best facilities money can buy, the coaches and the failure to consistently measure themselves against high quality opponents from 2004 on took a heavy toll.
And please: We don’t want to hear that qualifying was hard. CONCACAF won exactly ONE game here in Germany when Mexico beat Iran. Costa Rica, Trinidad and Tobago and the USA combined for a total of two points between them. Fans in America should be thanking Mexico for their performance against Argentina — it may be the only thing that saves the region three places in the next Cup.
The USA must learn from this experience. If (as we hope) more and more Americans migrate to Europe to play, the old way of running the U.S. men’s program necessarily will have to be changed. The USA can no longer be run as if it is a college team or a club. And when MLS comes into line with the rest of the world, then the USA will be able to field its best team instead having to mix and match squads.
It’s easy to say “fire Bruce.” It’s easy to say the guys “crapped out.” The harder thing to accept is that the system has clear and obvious weaknesses that beg for change. Until those changes happen, the USA will never be anything better than second-class in the sport. Let’s hope Sunil Gulati is unwilling to accept that.
If USA decided to play with mediocre teams to make it look good and keep raising places in FIFA rankings in America, create expectations and become a great marketing item for this country, that's fine; because they got the federation got the money now.
But in reality is US now at the same level with european or southamerican countries (Argentina or Brazil)?
I guess not, football is a good marketing item to be exploded with arguments, expectations, sponsorships, billboards, etc.
What USA wasn't expecting is to play in the world cup in one of the hardest groups in the cup, which is something that they need to be prepared.
I haven't seen a REAL TOUR of this team with european teams in EUROPE for one month at least, now that they have the money to do it.
The key point is the reference to the 2002 team's HUMILITY after being thumped by the Dutch. This team, like the 98 team, just plain thought that it was a lot better than it really was.
Yes, the 04/05 schedule hid the weaknesses. That has to be addressed in the future. Yes, MLS really needs to be on the same schedule as the rest of the football playing world( although there obviously cannot be games being played in January in NY and NE, or in Columbus for that mattter).
Still the basic point is that they had a deluded view of where they really stood.
Maybe they were just shocked when the hook went home and they realized that they were either not good enough or not ready, or both. Maybe that accounts for what many of us saw a s lack of effort, primarily v TCR but also against ghana as well.
We might note that "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" AS for our MNT, a frank acknowledgement that our players are not world class, combined with a firm undertaking not to pretend that they are, is the beginning of the road back.
Personally, I think that this team could have competed. Unfortunately, its deluded view of itself prevented that. Basically, BA decided to stick with his guys and his formation. Nothing meshed. the tema lost all its confidence and that is the end of that.
I agree on most points, especially our horrific slate of "opponents" getting set for the cup. I knew we were doomed after the Morocco game....
I am glad that you noted that they did indeed play with great effort in the Italy and Ghana game, the problem was the effort was not well coordinated or directed. At least they burned their engines as hard as they could.
I do believe we can learn from this and move forward. There is a lot of developing talent and fresh ideas to be explored.
Did anyone else think that Beasley looked like a WR that has been knocked out 1 to many times going across the middle?
He seemed afraid to attack the defense for fear of contact. He must have gotten the #### kicked out of him in his league the last couple years. I guess when you are a buck-05 that will happen.
He must realize he is on this team for his attacking skills, speed and the ability to draw fouls. If he refuses to attack then everything he brings to the table as a player is no longer on the table.
You raise some good points. I agree that the effort was there. Saying they played with effort is an oversimplification. On the other hand, key players did lack a certain passion and fearlessness.
I completely agree with your asssessment about the assembly of the team and the pre-WC competition. As I have posted before I think too many players, where comfortable with their status on the team. BA needs to move on so a new coach can challenge some guys to step up or step aside.
You say the US system has weaknesses. I think it would be more accurate to say there is room for improvement. A bottom-up approach with MLS sponsored academies or regional leagues like US Hockey are great ideas. While these ideas will take time and may work, the college system also helps late bloomers. I know players who peaked at 18 and others guys who peak at 24.
I would like to see the NCAA allow spring soccer much like fall baseball. In addition, US Soccer should also conider setting up a summer league for college players. Baseball has the Cape Cod League for colege players where wooden bats are used. The guys work during the days and play baseball at night and on weekends. The baseball is entertaining and a lot of prospects are discovered there.
I wish MLS would not only adjust its schedule but the playoff system. I would like to see one table and if they want to appeal to US fans then have a 4 team playoff. Right now, guys take games off because qualifying for the playoffs is all that matters and it is not difficult. This hurts the game and the appeal of the
take 2:
With all the talk of expansion, I would like to see relegation come into play. If relegation were possible, then you would see clubs take a much different approach. It would also give someone like rochester a chance to advance.
An interesting catch-22 regarding pre-WC scheduling. If you play the big boys, you may better allow your team to get prepared to face the world's best, but you also run the risk of getting smacked and crushing the team's confidence. On the other hand, you can play minnows, hopefully boosting your squad's confidence, but it may not adequately prepare them to play top sides. Another big problem with the US in prep is that arguably their two best players -- Reyna and O'Brien -- are so often unavailable due to injury. So, we can't play our pre-WC friendlies using the same style, formation, and tactics that we intend to use during the WC, and also we end up having to play folks out of position in our prep matches.
Jamie, what are the odds that the 2010 World Cup could be held here in the U.S. I just threw down a 50 beer bet with a coworker that FIFA will switch locales.
What we need to do for young kids is KEEP THEM PLAYING. AS I have posted elsewhere, the Travel/Premier team selection system drives 75% of the kids out of the game by the time they are 11, 12 or 13. Meanwhile, some of the kids who been selected for Travel/Premier burn out from playing 70-80 games a year(including indoor games in the winter).
I am unfamiliar with the Hockey approach but I gather that it has the same Travel/Rec dichotomy so I am not sure that is the answer.
It was simpler whne we were more urban. In Philly, where I lived, there were games organized around rec centers or Boys clubs and lots of kid sto make teams.
I think that is the best comment in this blog so far, why you want soccer 19-20 year old college players who only have games on domestic leagues, while in the meantime in Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, England and the rest of the world are training kids since 5-6 year old and selecting them and signed them when they have 16 to premier leagues.
But, in order for parents to select football to be a sport to be practice by their kids, it has to come from people who are hunger for success and money.
My point is why select soccer for my son, if the money is in baseball, basketball or american football?
It has to be attractive in short term now, but it's against US best practices using NCAA as billboard for future professional athletes.
I am a proponent of short rosters, maximized playing time and keeping kids in the same pool until high school. I am against Travel teams/ premier teams and middle school teams. Mix the talent fairly and let the kids play.
I know that kids are selected at yopunger ages in traditional footballing nations. In the uS, however, that process is out of control. I have posted onthta at length on Question No2 and will not repeat myself.
As far as choosing real football over the American sports? Well, that's a tough choice, given the financial realities. However, only a tiny percentage of kids who play HS sports play beyond that level.For 98% of kids, there is no shot at pro sports , regardless of the sport they choose.
Remember your never as good as you look on you best day and your never as bad as you look on your worst.
Clearly the US were overwhelmed by the CR, but if a reyna kick is 3-4 imches to the right, its an entirely different game. They came back and competed gamely with an Italian team that is world class in every position. Agaisnt ghana, after siezing the momentum right b 4 half, had that taken from them shortly after, by what you yourself called a horrible call. Yes good teams overcome these things but the fragility of the US team wasnt going to allow for that.
This was the best performance from a US team in Europe, as bad as it looked!
Those are the optomistic takes. On the pessimistic takes, I think now we know why teams change managers, win lose or draw after the world cup or every 2-4 yrs in general. They become fat cats, resting on past glories, relying on older, fading stars, noone in the organization to challange rigid thinking etc. Lesson learned.
I see both sides to the pre wc match scheduling, many countries put challenging teams on it to hopefully raise the level of their clubs play, an equal number of successful sides play patsies and spank the sh.. out of them to build up confidence, see england, brazil etc. so i think its a little monday morning quartebacking to complain.
I do however the schedule over the past 2 yrs is important. YOu look at confederations cups and others and the US should participate whenever they can.
As for CONCACAF, in the long run i think it can be a
As for CONCACAF, in the long run i think it can be a competitive advantage for the US. They in fact have 3.5 spaces and two real teams MEXICO and yes the US. Qualifying should be done with relative ease allwoing these matches to be used for other team issues. With just a little talent we should be in thhis thing for yrs to come because of CONCACAF.
Janie thanks for your thought provoking questions.
"Then, during the Cup, the USA closed practices to the media seemingly out of fear that the USA’s grand tactics or player lineups would be leaked out. This is odd for two reasons: The first is that there are only about 25 folks (and we’re being generous) who actually care enough to have written about the team every day in the first place"
You deserve a big bonus for your coverage from Fox. To whom do I write a letter to at Fox to make it happen?
You hit on some points my friends & I have been kicking around: lack of quality friendly opponents, the notion that these were "Bruce's guys," and that maybe he should have been looking at some new blood in the two years after the 02 cup. But paranoid Bruce didn't change from what worked in 02 for fear of god knows what, and it bit us in the bum.
So, we do need to fire Bruce. We need to get a European coach, one that will schedule friendlies in Europe on FIFA international dates, bring in some new blood, and figure out how to incorporate the younger guys from this cup into the mix. If not a Euro (one might not want to come), maybe the NE Rev coach, he's a Scot and would have a more European sensibility to the game.
I feel like we did the best we could, but we lost because we just weren't good enough. Effort had nothing to do with it, no matter what Eric Wynalda says. And I felt like that was going to be the case going into the WC.
The only thing I felt good about during our time in the WC was that Dempsey and Johnson both told the press that they want to play in Europe very soon, and then they both showed some ability in their brief time on the pitch.
Competition breeds quality. It's a principal that's pretty much universal in oh so many fields. Economics and sports are two of the glaring ones. One thing I think we all agree on is that whether we are talking about MLS, LD, or US Soccer, competition is always touched on. My biggest peeve is that, although Bruce tried a lot of players, not enough players are tested against stiff competition.
We should play the Copa America. We should go overseas more often. Sadly, I think the 'up and ups' at US Soccer are thinking about money. Let Drew Carey donate some of his money if it's such a detriment to their pocketbooks.
Oh yeah, someone had mentioned reforming the MLS schedule to a one table setup. Not going to happen. As much as I would love to see that there is no way you can do that and have it make sense without demoting/promoting teams and there is not an iota of chance that will be contemplated (can't have a NY or LA pro team play in a second division; economically or for the interest of the sport).
I would like the schedule aligned a little more to other competitions but I'm not sure how much that's going to work either. America is different from any other nation because we are the core of so many sports (football, baseball, hockey, basketball, college sports, NASCAR, golf, etc.). It has to be looked at with all the nuances thrown in.
Much has been said about US players going to Europe to be exposed to better soccer. That is a good option that unfortunately is not easy to achieve for a lot of players. It's the chicken and the egg, European teams do not want players from weaker leagues and these players cannot get better because they play in a weak league. Mexico has the same problem getting players to Europe. BUt the difference is that Mecico has tons of South American players from Brazil and Argentina. Having these guys serves a similar purpose as sending guys to Europe. It basically exposes Mexican players to better soccer and brings their level up a notch. I think the MLS should pursue South American players aggresively. They come to Mexico because they are paid well so money is definetly the issue here, but I believe the MLS could make some good offers too. I think this approach combined with getting more players in Europena leagues, as well as joining more South American and Europena Tournaments would do wonders to raise the level a bit.
The entire WC situation reminds me of the plight of "mid-major" teams in college b'ball. The best teams (Brazil, etc.) win a disproportionate share of the games/tourneys. They have resources ($, academies, popular support/fan base) that lesser teams don't. They have a different player pipeline -- recruiting is easier at UCLA due to history/prestige/TV contracts.
When a mid-major (George Mason this year, for example) rises up to challenge the big boys it is typically transitory success and usually attributable to one or more great players who found themselves at that school instead of the bigger name. Larry Bird, Cedric "Cornbread" Maxwell, Adam Morrison, etc. come to mind.
Speaking of Adam Morrison -- could the US be a Gonzaga? (Succeed to a certain extent as a mid-major.) And for that matter, many current powerhouses weren't much at all back in the day. I grew up in Syracuse & their program was a fraction of what it is today before the formation of the Big East and TV attention.
All this is to wonder whether focusing on the psyches of the current 23 on the USMNT is less important than revamping the player development system and other concerns that irishimpact, eaglesperch and others have identified. When Kent State goes to play Duke, how much do we care whether the guys are "getting up for the game"?
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I think what saved CONCACAF from losing a WC berth is that the teams from Asia and Africa didn't fare much better. We may still lose a berth to CONMEBOL who had 3 of their 4 teams reach the second round, and teams like Uruguay left home. Furthermore, I'll be very surprised if CONCACAF has it's 4th place team (T&T) play in a playoff next time, because we just don't deserve the same number of berths as the South Americans.
It took a lot to say a few simple things. WE are technically and tactically inferior. a number of our players do not have the vision or intelligence to play at such a high level. The U.S funnels lots of coin to promote the sport but the training at the youth level is poor. There are to many wannabes trying to teach our youth how to play football. To much of the buddy system!!!!!! Was there squad issues, yes. some of the players had no business playing. We had little leadership. Our so-called stars failed to shine. We played too slow!!! No urgency, little heart or motivation.
striker, an interesting analogy, right down to the favorable whistles for the "Dukes" of the soccer world.
At this point, we have to keep it simple. As Irish so eloquently put it, our guys just are not that good. Let's find out which ones have heart, put them out there in a formation that gives their talents some scope and hope for the best.
LOng term, let the kids play. The wannabe syndrome in "Premier" coaches is another deadly strike from Irish. Absolutely correct.
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